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Post subject: Australian matrix etchings  PostPosted: Nov 07, 2011 - 02:41 AM
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Hi!
I need some help with Australian matrix/run-out groove etchings.
Firstly I like to identify some of the involved engineers and their roles.
Secondly I like to find out something about the CBS pressing numbers.

Engineers:
Who used the initials "CR"?
Found on the Australian New Order - Movement - first edition 1982 EMI LP pressing
Full etchings:
A: FACOZ 1007 A GH (= Greg Henderson)
B FACOZ 1007 B CR

Who used the initials "CP"?
Who used the initials "JM"?
All found on the Australian Joy Division - Still - second edition 1984 CBS LP pressing
Full etchings:
A: FAC DM 1005 A-2 Studios 301 GH JM
B: FACDM 1005 B-2 GH
C: FACDM 1006 A-2 CP JM
D: FACDM 1006 B-2 CP

Who used initials "MR"?
Found on Joy Divison - Substance 1977-1980 - CBS 1988 LP pressing.
Full etchings:
A: 462436.1 MX 250827 MR 1
B: 462436.1 MX 250828 MR 2

CBS matrix:
MX was used by CBS Artarmon since the 50s. Okay.
But when and why did CBS use
DMX (e.g. Happy Mondays - Kinky Afro Remix 12": DMX 76737 U2A 7:26 // DMX 76738, U2A, 10:10)
DTMX (e.g. Revenge - Pineapple Face 12": DTMX-74817 U2A 6:02 // DTMX-74818, U2A, 6:02)
SMX (e.g.: New Order Shellshock 12": SMX-66327 U2A // SMX-66328 U2A 14:14)

And finally, what does U2A or B2A or URA or W2A stand for?
Thanks, Seb
 
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Post subject: RE: Australian matrix etchings  PostPosted: Nov 21, 2011 - 08:49 AM
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Anybody??
 
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Sebfact...I'd try discogs and use search engine to locate general and/or specific releases (esp. Australian) and I'll bet you can get allot of the info. your looking for.

Good Luck, Sterno
 
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That's where I'm coming from... Sad
I've heard that one of the moderators here (called Mikey) used to be or still is an Australian mastering engineer and I think he is in fact the "MR" but would like some more information.

I've been in touch with Steve Smart ( symbol or "A Smart Cut"), Greg Henderson (GH) and Don Bartley (DB). I also found out the triangle symbol belonging to Tony Taurins and the AP belonging to Alan Parsons. So, from the mastering side I'm fine but the vinyl production side is missing...
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 23, 2012 - 09:14 AM
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Wow, tough questions. You have identified the more common ones but I can't answer any of your questions except to say that CBS' matrix numbers followed the catalogue number on each release. MX is the prefix to their matrix numbers, and doesn't refer to the cutting engineer.

The SMX and DMX prefaced matrix numbers look like Festival Records numbers. Are you sure they are CBS pressings? Note that CBS closed their vinyl pressing plant in 1990 IIRC and their pressing work went to Festival Records who made a much thicker record than CBS did.

I'm not "MR". Interesting questions, though.
 
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Hi Mikey,
thanks for your reply. Well, I still need to find out who CP, CR, JM, and MR are then.
The DMX, DTMX and SMX pressings are indeed all Festival releases but some are pre 1990 and some are post 1990.
The Artarmon vinyl plant closed its doors on the 28th of June 1991, followed early 1993 by the mastering services. I wasn't aware that Festival had their own plant. Interesting....
Cheers, Seb
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Mar 16, 2012 - 09:14 AM
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I have no idea on 80's releases but globaldog might.
It could pay to shoot Andy an email:
http://www.globaldogproductions.info/
He has done a heap of research into Aussie labels and his connections may be able to help.
Word of warning, dont piss him off, he bites!

Also there is a yahoo group called rock& roll scars or similar and guy called Cameron used to frequent the group.
He is hard to catch and I dont even know if he is still around but he knows a bit too.
Well worth an ask.
I hope that this helps.
 
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Thanks!! I have shot Andy an email. Let's see what happens.
 
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He couldn't help, so the questions remain unanswered....
 
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