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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 23, 2006 - 03:27 PM
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Thought this book may be interesting to those reading this thread
http://www.fosland.com/DeadWaxBOOK.htm
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 23, 2006 - 04:12 PM
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kaos01 wrote:
LPMAN wrote:
Yours may be a label variation. I would dismiss your record as re-pro straight away if were not for the "lowered" middle ring on the label.


Where would that put this?



Hmmm, I doubt that is a first press, later re-issue would be my guess.

On the other hand, the print in between the parallel lines on the right hand side looks odd.
 
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Post subject: Fortune 45...Real or Fake??  PostPosted: Nov 29, 2006 - 09:39 PM
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I found this 45 in an old stand up "Victrola" radio/record player. I can tell you the labels painted on (tried to clean it and...). Take a look!
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In this discussion there is few that mention anything about matrix in dead wax.. When I started to collect 45s (not long ago) I bought two books "Collecting Rare Records, do you have originals" (Lou Silvani) and "Fosman`s Guide To Bootleg Doo-Wop" (Joe Pecoraro). These two books have been very useful helping with how dead wax should look like on originals.
The Pecoraro book also list boot matrix examples.
Is there any of the labels posted here, that is concidered as boots, that have the correct matrix on dead wax? I have used the matrix on dead wax as one of the most safe ways
to determine if it is a original press or boot, but this might not be the case?
 
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Hey Johnny-guitar,

Joe Pecoraro also has a book from 2004 that is titled "Dead Wax" that has been a great source for me in identifing labels and matrix numbers....I also rely upon the matrix numbering info when checking on records.....

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Joe Pecoraro also has a book from 2004 that is titled "Dead Wax" that has been a great source for me in identifing labels and matrix numbers....I also rely upon the matrix numbering info when checking on records.....


Thank you for the info! What is different in that book compared to the bootleg doo-wop book?
 
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There is a link to that book at the top of the page
 
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There is a link to that book at the top of the page


Thank you!
 
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Post subject: Re: Counterfeit 45 Records  PostPosted: Apr 24, 2007 - 10:49 PM
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Who produces / manufactures the 45's how are they made ? IE: Cut and pressed like the usual historical fashion or on one of those "one off" cutters ? (Linear or "Arc sweep")
Is there any digitalisation in the process ? IE: The master being a CD ! If so then some Northern Soul or Garage collectors would be listening to something that is digital and not true analogue.
And how do they find their way into the hands of record sellers on ebay and in gemm music stack etc. Basically how do they get into circulation ?
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Someone brought up matrix numbers as a way to identify a counterfeit but isn't it possible to replicate the etchings in the dead wax? Can an original record be used to make a new stamper from which counterfeits could be pressed? I have a couple records (LPs actually) that I'm pretty certain are counterfeits but the dead wax matches the originals which I also have. The LPs in question are white label promos: Tom Petty's Official Live 'Leg and Southside Johnny Live at the Bottom Line if anyone has any information specifically about those records.
 
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