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Post subject: History of Sampling version 1.0  PostPosted: May 12, 2005 - 11:04 AM
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Here's a cool Java application, it doesn't have tons of songs yet, but if you scroll around you'll get the picture:

http://jessekriss.com/projects/samplinghistory/

This really demonstrates how integral jazz and funk are to hip-hop. And of course there's some rock and early electronica thrown in there for good measure. Hip hop truly is the "new blues".
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 12, 2005 - 05:53 PM
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I'm flipped..
I listed Bubbha Thomas and The Lightmen (Best Of) on eBay and It is going through the roof.
I believe it is going to be used for sample or scratching.
Is this a sought after disc?
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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 12, 2005 - 06:02 PM
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st2580smile wrote:
I'm flipped..
Is this a sought after disc?
PETE


I think it's just an extra cool cover. Wink

I had a heck of a time getting a reasonably priced copy of John Lee Hooker's "Free Beer and Chicken". Apparently it's sampled fairly often by DJs. I finally picked up a copy at a record store, the owner sold it to me for half price when he heard that I actually planned on listening to it.

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Well the final price was over $150.00.. Shocked
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4726770556&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AIT&rd=1
I'm not complaining but I don't understand the appeal of this Lp. Embarassed
It sold to someone in Japan.
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I just noticed something weird about that site. It has sugarhill gang sampling chic. (Before Chic released good times?)

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From hanging out with my friend who's been giving me "Hip-Hop 101" (Don't give me sh*t, I just want to explore some other music), and watching endless online videos/DVDs with him. Some of the records these guys use are so obscure.

Some rap song probably had a sample from a song on that record.

People buy an album for ONE sound in which to sample for themselves. Whether it be a drum, bass, guitar, trumpet, or so on. Either a single note or a whole phrase. Which (don't ask me) is pointless nowadays. The equipment you can buy (which most serious people) can take in a live sample of however you make it sound through your own amp/stack/whatever.

But people pay STUPID amounts of money for a sound that is easily copied nowadays (all though most likely, it's not analog).
 
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Slonoman everything you state I believe.
It is a cheesy way to express your "art".
Brian Wilson used the studio as an instrument. Not in this way.
This type of "music" sounds like arcade noise.
Then again I'm "old school" Wink
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This type of "music" sounds like arcade noise.
Then again I'm "old school" Wink
PETE


Yup, it all sounds like Pong to me.
 
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I just noticed something weird about that site. It has sugarhill gang sampling chic. (Before Chic released good times?)


Both songs were released in 1979 so that is an eff-up.

I don't know if you guys are bitching about sampling or what. Pete, actually there's a whole subset of electronic music that samples arcade sounds. Very popular in Japanese pop music. It comes from growing up playing "Legend of Zelda" until 3 a.m. in the morning...oh, never mind.
 
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Trainwreck,
No not bitching about sampling. Wink

Remember that the first time any of us white kids in Nebraska heard anything resembling rap it was probably in Blondie's Rapture at the "Fun-Time Skate Center". Later Kurtis Blow, Grand Master Flash, Melle Mel and others starting filtering through. Run DMC pretty much blew the lid off when they covered (not really even sampled) Walk This Way.

Never really my favorite but still much better than alot of what was being put out at the time. The abillity to take a tune or riff from a song and completely transorm it is impressive. Recently though, it seems sampling has gotten alittle out of hand. It's not just a riff here and there it's essentially taking the studio master and adding a new more dancable beat. I've heard rap songs on the radio recently now sampling other rap songs.

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