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Post subject: RE: Re: Determine pressing  PostPosted: Aug 09, 2007 - 07:23 AM
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I just learned alot about my King Crimson collection.....


Probably more than you wanted to know! Wink
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: Determine pressing  PostPosted: Aug 11, 2007 - 01:04 PM
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...and i was forced to go and spin In The Court ...a few times Very Happy !!!
 
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hi. i have posted this to other threads. just discovered this thread and it may be the best/most appropriate one to post this. anyway to determine by matrix/stamper numbers/possible label variations,etc.what may be the original pressing of nappy brown`s coal miner/hoonie boonie on savoy 1594 marron and silver label? my copy looks exactly like the 45 that has gone for good money in auctions recently so i know it is legit and someone here on the forum apparently authenticated that it`s not a boot. so my only remaining issue is with the "which pressing might it be". any help is appreciated..thanks,greg
 
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gregscott wrote:
... so my only remaining issue is with the "which pressing might it be".
Record "pressings" are ordinarily not determined from matrrix numbers, as these generally remain constant for all copies of the same release. "Pressings" normally are distingueshed by differences in the design of the label used from one copy to another.
 
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I have a copy of Nina Simone on Colpix.
It actually has the date hand written in the dead wax.
6/15/59

Its date of release coincides with the record guides.

It would be a lot easier if everyone else had dated the wax.
 
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I have a copy of Nina Simone on Colpix.
It actually has the date hand written in the dead wax.
6/15/59

Its date of release coincides with the record guides.

It would be a lot easier if everyone else had dated the wax.
It's highly unlikely that the mastering engineer would know, or care, what the release date might be when cutting the master lacquer. This is most likely the date the master was cut.
 
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Post subject: The 1S Masterpiece  PostPosted: Sep 14, 2007 - 08:51 AM
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I would like to see a $1,000 copy of the 1S Respighi. I've only seen $250 copies. Even the later stampers are collictible as far as price is concerned, as evidenced through popsike listings.

The dynamics proven in this 1S Master Recording is an interesting phenomenon. Not all music has the capability of reaching this level, no matter how ''audiophile'' the engineering attempts to be. This is what I look for in any recording regardless of music genre. As I refine my taste and define my collection, I feel that the 1S record is the most important. Not the most valuable, mind you. But the most important.

The stars were in perfect alignment for the 1S recording. Can anyone suggest another where art meets rendering meets engineering? I'm not sure if that's the best way to describe the phenomenon.

And please excuse that my question is a little off-topic. I s'pose it wouldn't be if the answers came back slinging trail-out matrix numbers.
 
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Post subject: How to tell original pressing  PostPosted: Jun 13, 2008 - 10:54 PM
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Hi gang,

There's been one question that I've never been able to really figure out after all these years of collecting. How can you tell an original pressing of a record? Is it more or less a comparison of other copies and determining a "lower" matrix number (or the like). I've just never been able to put my finger on a good explanation.

Thanks for any light that can be shed...

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Post subject: RE: How to tell original pressing  PostPosted: Jun 13, 2008 - 11:06 PM
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Some of the other guys may have a bit more for ya, but here's some basic info:

Know the record. It's year of release is the main factor for most records. Also, knowing where it was released helps too.
Know labels: If you can tell which label style the record co. used during which periods, you can better date the record. Record label addresses help too. Atlantic changed from Broadway to Rockefeller and most can tell a earlier copy of a record made before 1973 (I think this is when they moved....or was it '75) if it has the Broadway address. The address trick really only helps for telling if a record is a reissue or not.

Not a trick to tell if it's an original, but if it's got a barcode on an older (pre 1978) album, it's a reissue.

The main factor to tell if it's an original pressing though it to know the album.

Hope I helped somewhat!

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Post subject: RE: How to tell original pressing  PostPosted: Jun 14, 2008 - 07:29 AM
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Thanks for the info Natakux2.
I also see that this is subject is a FAQ. Honest, I did search for for it but did have problems with the search. I couldn't get to any page other than the first page of matches.
Thanks to all who answered!

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