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Post subject: Opera Questions  PostPosted: Aug 16, 2008 - 01:38 PM
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I don't know anything about opera (my Dad loved it, but I'm clueless). I picked these up at the Salvation Army today, they were on a cart waiting to be distributed; no one had messed with them yet, and they all look to be in exceptional shape. There's 69 albums, most of them multiple box sets, so I'm sure there's well over 120 records in total. I could see there was no place on the shelves to fit this cart of records, so I got the manager, told him nobody buys opera, and I'd give him 20 dollars for all of them, to which he agreed. I don't know how collectible opera is, or if there's fans on the look-out on Ebay, any info appreciated from those in the know (sorry for the long list).
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Bellini - Norma. Everest/Cetra 423/3, 3-record box

Bellini - Norma (Highlights), Maria Callas, Angel 35379

Boito - Mephisofele, Everest/Cetra 409/3, 3-record box

Eileen Farrell as Medea - Columbia Masterworks ML-5325

Gluck: Orfeo Ed Euridice, Kathleen Ferrier, EMI 25637/38, 2-record box

Gluck: Orfeo Ed Eurydice, Urania 5223/3, 3-record box

Gluck, Alceste, Flagstad, Jobin, Young - Richmond Opera Treasury Series (London), SRS-63512, 3-record box

Josef Haydn; House Afire, Yale University 1963

Mascagni - Cavalleria Rusticana, Gigli, Masconi, Seraphim IB-6008, 2-record box

Mascagni - Cavalleria Rusticana, RCA Victor Red Seal LM-6059, 2-record box

Mascagni - L"Amico Fritz - Cetra/Everest 429/2, 2-record set

Mozart - Le Nozze Di Figaro, EMI (Italian) 01751/53, 3-record box

Mozart - Don Giovannai (excerpts), Allegro Royale 1588

Ponchiellii - La Gioconda, Vox/Turnabout 65051/52/53, 3-record box

Puccini - Tosca, RCA Red Seal Collector's Issue LCT=6004, 2record box

Purcell - Diod and Aeneas, RCA His Master's Voice LHMV-1007, with Kirstan Flastad, one-record box (is there supposed to be more than one here?)

Rossini - William Tell, Cetra/Soria 1232, 4-record box

Spontini - La Vestale, Janowitz Py Baldani Corradie Lopez Cobos, "Private Record" MRF-124-S

Strauss - Die Fraue Ohne Schatten, Richmond Opera Treasury Series SRS-64503

Richard Strauss - Capiccio, Bohm, Deutsche Grammophon 2709 038, 3-record box

Richard Strauss - Capriccio, Angel 3580, 3-record set

Richard Strauss - Ariadne Auf Naxos, Karajan, Angel 2532, 3-record box

Richard Strauss - Ariande Auf Naxos, Decca 6.35124, 3-record box

Richard Strauss - Salome, Oceanic 302, 2-record slipcase (have a double of this set)

Richard Strauss - Arabella, London OSA-1404, 4-record box

Richard Strauss - Die Fraue ohne Schatten, Deutsche Gammophon 138911/14, 4-record box

Richard Strauss - Daphne, Deutsche Grammophon 138956/57, 2-record box

Richard Strauss - Die Schweigsame Frau, Angel SZCX-3867, 3-record box

Richard Strauss - Intermezzo, Sawallisch, EMI SLS-5204, 3-record box

Richard Strauss - Die Liebe der Danae, Salzburg Festival January 1964, Educational Media Associates RR-464, 3-record set

Richard Strauss - Die Agyptische Helena, Decca 6.35491, 3-record box

Verdi - Messa Da Rquiem, Discophilia (German), 2-record box

Verdi - Un Ballo In Maschera, Gigli & Caniglia, Seraphim 1B-6026, 2-record box

Verdi - Nabucco, Everest/Cetra (Italian) LPC-1216, 3-record box

Verdi - Aida, Qualitom LPX-1220

Verdi - Aida, Discophillia, 3-record box

Verdi - La Battaglia Di Legnano, Everest/Cetra 431/3, 3-record box

Verdi - I Masnadeieri, Gardelli, Phillips 6703 064, 3-record box

Verdi - La Forza Del Destino, Cetra/Everest 418/3, 3-record box

Verdi - La Traviata, Toscanini, RCA AT 202/1-2, 2-record box

Verdi - Requiem Mass, Angel 35208, 2-record box

Verdi - Il Corsao -Lamberto Gardelli, Phillips 6700098, 2-record box

Verdi and Toscanini, RCA Red Seal LM-6041, 2-record box

Wagner - Die Meistersinger Ace II, London 480/482, 3-record box

Wagner - Die Walkure Act III, Bayreuth Festival 1951, Karajan, Columbia Masterworks SL-116, 2-record box

Wagner - Tristan und Isolde, Angel 3588, 5-record box

Wagner - Tristand und Isolde, EMI/Odeon 2213, 3-record set

Wagner - Tristan und Isolde (Love Duet), Telefunken LGX-66004, 1-record box

Weber - Oberon, Period Thrift Edition TE-102, 2-record box
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The following records are all in black boxes that it looks like the collecter purchases, with handmade labelmaker-type labes affixed. I don't know what happened to the real covers; in some cases I'm not sure there were original label sleeves, like with the hand-typed Carnegie Hall labels. These are all in great shape like the others, and also have all sorts of librettos and booklets included.

Interlude - unmarked box with 2 records, no composer listed, record label reads "With Hanny Steffack, Hermann Prey, Ferry Gruber, Alfred Poell, Oskar Czerwenka".

Lotte Lehmann and Ariadne Auf Naxos, The Golden Age of Opera, Private Record Not For Sale, various artists, plain black slipcase

Mascagni - Iris - The Golden Age of Opera, label reads "Petrella, Borso. Meletti San Carlo Santini Cond."

Massenet - Werther and Manon, Carnegie Hall Recording Co. hand-typed labels, homemade spine label reads "Albanese Velletti Lawrence 1955", 3-record box

Mozart - Don Giovanni, The Golden Age of Opera, Private Record Not For Sale, homemade spine label reads "Gobbi, Welitsom, Schwarzkopf, Seefried, Furtwangler", 3-record box

Othello, The Golden Age of Opera, Private Record Not For Sale, June 17, 1926 Covent Garden, Giovanni Zenatello

Puccini - Tosca, Unique Opera Records, Private Record Not For Sale, spine reads "Moore Kullman Sved Metropolitan Sodero 1944", 2-record box

Puccini Edgar - 2 Golden Age of Operas, 1 Unique Opera Records, spine reads "London 1967 Turin 1971"

Richard Strauss - Feuersnot, Fire Famine, homemade spine label reads "Marzendorfer, Vienna 1964", 2-record box

Richard Strauss - Die Aegyptische Helena, Helen of Egypt Records, homemade spine label reads "Keilberth Munich 1956"

Richard Strauss - Friedenstag, single record in black box, Munich Festival Orchestra August 13, 1960, no label company, label reads "This record is not for sale, for university study only", homemade spine label reads "Keilberth Munich Festival 1960"

Strauss - Die Frau Ohne Schatten, one record is A.N.N.A. Record Company, "Private Record Not For Sale"), 2 others are Unique Opera Records, "Private Record Not For Sale", homemade label on spine reads "Vienna 1933 1943 Boehm Milan 1940 Marinuzzi

Strauss - Salmoe, The Golden Age of Opera, Private Record Not For Sale, homemade spine label reads "Welitsch, Jagel, Janssen Metropolitan Opera Reiner", 2-record box

Verdi - La Traviata, (The Golden Age of Opera, "Private Record Not For Sale"), Homemade label on spine reads "Verdi La Traviata Ponselle, Jagel, Tibbett Panizza 1935", 2-record box

Verdi - Falstaff, (The Golden Age of Opera, "Private Record Not For Sale"), Homemade label on spine reads "Verdi Falstaff Warren,Albanese,DiStefano Metropolitian Opera Reiner", 2-record box

Verdi - I Vespri Siciliani - The Golden Age of Opera, Private Record Not For Sale, homemade spine label reads "Cerquetti, Christoff, Taliabue Rossi, 2-record set

Verdi - Aida, The Golden Age of Opera, Private Record Not For Sale, homemade spine label reads "Milanov Martinelli Castagna Pelletier 1943", 2-record box

Verdi - Simon Boccagnegra, The Golden Age of Opera, Private Record Not For Sale, homemade spine label reads "Eibbett, Rethberg, Martinelli, Pina Metroplitan Opera Panizza", 3-record box

Von Weber - Eurythane, with Joan Sutherland (The Golden Age of Opera, "Private Record Not For Sale"), 2 records in slipcase

Wagner - Tristan Und Isolde, The Golden Age of Opera, Private Record Not For Sale, homemade spine label reads "Flagstad Melchior Reiner 1936", 4-record box
Strauss - Die Liebe Der Danae, The Golden Age of Opera, Private Record Not For Sale, homemade spine label reads "World Premiere Salzburg 1952", 2-record box

Zandonai - Conchita, The Golden Age of Opera, Private Record Not For Sale, homemade label reads "Stella Bottion Rai Rossi", includes a 50-page libretto program from the Chicago Grand Opera Company, marked 35 cents, 2-record box
 
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Post subject: RE: Opera Questions  PostPosted: Aug 16, 2008 - 03:34 PM
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The second batch, the ones after your ---------, with "Private Record Not For Sale", are bootlegs, probably of radio performances. I got excited when I first ran into these many years ago, until I found out that if there were any of these with any commercial value they sure weren't the ones I found - I couldn't give 'em away. Then through painful experience and money and time wasted I determined that this applied to opera LPs in general. I went to a sale a couple of months ago where I could have loaded up my car with clean opera boxes on good (US) labels at 50 cents a disk, and I left them all there. And so did everyone else looking at the classical LP bins, and there were definitely other dealers there. As far as I can tell, opera listeners were glad to see the back of 4-8LP sets where they had to get up every 20 minutes to keep listening, and don't want to revisit the format at any price.
 
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Post subject: Re: RE: Opera Questions  PostPosted: Aug 16, 2008 - 04:36 PM
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R.Totale wrote:
The second batch, the ones after your ---------, with "Private Record Not For Sale", are bootlegs, probably of radio performances.


So, the Golden Age of Opera ones I have aren't these (pic of one of mine down below):
http://www.amazon.com/EJS-Discography-Recordings-1956-1971-Discographies/dp/0313278687/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218922210&sr=1-2
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Between 1956 and 1981, Edward J. Smith issued three series of private long-playing recordings devoted almost entirely to historical operatic performance. Smith's first series, "The Golden Age of Opera," appeared between 1956 and 1971, and its contents are catalogued here for the first time. Notorious for their lack of accurate documentation, the LPs have remained a source of great frustration to collectors and historians. This volume presents an exhaustive accounting of the thousands of individual recordings contained on the 479 "Golden Age of Opera" LPs, documented from the most reliable primary and secondary sources, studio and opera house archives, and personal correspondence.



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Post subject: Re: RE: Opera Questions  PostPosted: Aug 16, 2008 - 04:38 PM
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R.Totale wrote:
As far as I can tell, opera listeners were glad to see the back of 4-8LP sets where they had to get up every 20 minutes to keep listening, and don't want to revisit the format at any price.

That makes a lot of sense, unfortunately. Sad
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Aug 16, 2008 - 04:48 PM
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R. Totale, wondering about the bootleg aspect of it. Here's another site that makes it sound a little different than just that (granted, I believe you that they're not worth anything):
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Fortunately for posterity, a sizable portion of Ponselle's radio appearances on such popular programs as the Atwater Kent Radio Hour, General Motors Symphony, Ford Sunday Evening Hour, Chesterfield Hour, Heinz Hall of Fame, RCA Magic Key, and General Electric's Twilight Hour and Sunday Circle were preserved on "airchecks," or private recordings commissioned by the artist or the program's sponsor to critique sound levels and other production values. In later years, many of these airchecks were released on private LPs that were sold on a subscription basis. But these private LPs were both a blessing and a curse. Most of them were produced by Edward J. Smith, an opera buff and former correspondent for the Hollywood Reporter, whose mastery of tape-recording techniques and zeal for tracking down airchecks were offset by a disregard for consistent sound quality, accurate documentation, or even authenticity. 6 Still, the numerous radio performances Smith was able to preserve and distribute through his "EJS" private label enabled thousands of opera enthusiasts to hear live performances by Ponselle and other singers of her generation when they were still in their prime.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Aug 16, 2008 - 06:22 PM
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Hi HSB- if your private issue labels look similar to the one shown- they are possibly all still legit (and collectable/ valuable). In my classical opera pile, I had a couple of private labels. I had found them listed in the classicalreference site. Would it be possible to post up a few more label pics? Thanks-M
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Aug 16, 2008 - 07:28 PM
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Some Furtwamgler records are very desirable, especially as far as collectibility is concerned. I would think these private records are official, too, and quite collectible.

Otherwise, looks like you have a nice collection of operas on yer hands.

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Would it be possible to post up a few more label pics? Thanks-M

Sure. Here's another in the EJS series; this box was accompanied by a program from a performance of the opera.



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Here's another EJS, and the Carnegie typed-label affair I mentioned.



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I believe that ANNA and Unique were also Edward J. Smith subscription labels.



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