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Post subject: Method/specialists for "restoring" scratched vinyl  PostPosted: Nov 25, 2003 - 02:02 PM
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Forgive me if this is off topic! And thanks in advance for any link or redirection!
Maybe this is crazy, but I was wondering if there existed any method or any "craft" that enabled one to "fill up" scratches on precious vinyls? As you would do to repair an asphalted pavement so to speak! Something maybe in line with what can be achieved with the Groove Lube spray? Or is this product the only way to go (of course when replacing such rare albums is too costly)?
 
   
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Post subject: lead  PostPosted: May 29, 2005 - 12:06 AM
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I have heard that taking a soft lead artists pencil over the scratches will not only hide the scratch visually but also audibly. This is a temporary fix though as it will wash or wear off after a short time depending on usage.

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Post subject: RE: lead  PostPosted: May 29, 2005 - 06:10 AM
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Well, there are some 'tricks of the trade', so to speak, many of which you don't really want to know about.

Soft lead pencils don't really qualify though. If you have a problem, such as a breakthrough of the groove wall, you can sometime effect a 'repair' of sorts using a wax pencil (usually available under the trade name 'Chinagraph') to rebuild the wall and then a toothpick to re-carve the groove path.

However, I'd hardly call the result inaudible - it's the sort of thing which we might have to resort to, simply to make a record playable prior to digital restoration. Of course, any problems introduced by this trick are then sorted out at the restoration stage.

Wet-playing can also be of use - but this is really something which should only be used as a last resort, since records which have been wet-played are generally noisier when subsequently dry-played, unless you are in a position to properly and thoroughly clean them after the wet-play cycle.

In truth, once records have become damaged, they will remain that way and there are no 'magic wands' to make them as new again.

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Post subject: RE: lead  PostPosted: May 30, 2005 - 09:12 AM
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One abominable practice I should mention, is 'skimming'.

In this case, the record is held perfectly flat (usually by means of a vacuum chuck) and a very small amount of material is skimmed from the top of the lands - that's the space between the grooves. Properly done, it removes all evidence of scratching and the record will look as though it has never been played.

However, although the record looks fine, which is the object of the exercise, it will actually sound just as bad as it did before processing. Microscopic examination of the grooves will reveal little nicks in the walls, which were the result of the scratches you can no longer see, but you can most certainly hear!

This really is an outrageous process, related to dodgy dealers, rather than enthusiastic collectors. Should you ever come across a case, please let me know, as it is something which I have been following for some time now in an effort to close down those responsible.

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Post subject: Re: RE: lead  PostPosted: May 30, 2005 - 09:38 AM
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Graeme wrote:
One abominable practice I should mention, is 'skimming'....

The topic has been brought up before, but it's been awhile: can you beileive some dealers skim?
 
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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: lead  PostPosted: May 30, 2005 - 10:10 AM
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I'm not sure about the USA - there seems to be a fairly large-scale skimming operation in Germany at the moment.

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I found an article (can't find the post) that fixes 85% of all heavy skips by back cueing. I use a heavier conical STANTON DJ cartridge. I have been able to pull the stylus through the small area and pulling the finger lift left or right (which ever the skip is going) while listening to the pop. Most I couldn't even hear afterward!
I just did this earlier today with Junior Walker's "Shotgun".
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I tried it st25...... and it worked beautifully! Wunnerful, Thanx!

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st2580smile wrote:
I found an article (can't find the post) that fixes 85% of all heavy skips by back cueing. I use a heavier conical STANTON DJ cartridge. I have been able to pull the stylus through the small area and pulling the finger lift left or right (which ever the skip is going) while listening to the pop. Most I couldn't even hear afterward!
I just did this earlier today with Junior Walker's "Shotgun".
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That usually works. However visiting this forum reminded me of a record which I really love however its so full of pops and crackle that I've never mixed with it. Its a shame, this record is one of the best 1991 'ardkore/house tracks I've ever heard.

Anyway I've just dug it out and played the whole record backwards on my SL-1200MK2 with a Ortofon Concorde cart. Then I cleaned it with the Gruv Glide pads and finally I sprayed the record directly with the Gruv Glide which you are _not_ suppose to do however this record is so shot I'll try anything. I just played the record back on the one side that I worked on in my headphones. Went over to look at the record and theres all this white dust on it. I believe this to be the dirt that was lodged into the grooves.

Theres still lots of crackle but the really loud pops are no longer there. Not bad. I'm going to work on the other side now.
 
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hey 1992....any particular reason why youve chose that year as your username? favourite lp come out then ? Laughing

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