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Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: rarest factory sleeve  PostPosted: Feb 22, 2010 - 11:27 AM
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Plus, it's the disposable nature of the factory sleeve that tends to make certain labels rarer.
I was always convinced that the "instruments" version of the 33 RPM Columbia sleeve came first because the red-print version which was used as the "transitional" sleeve for the 45 RPM releases (with all the references to 33 RPM and Microgroove blocked out). But then I found a Frank Sinatra 33 RPM single with a catalog number in the 1-400 series, so maybe I was wrong.

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Post subject: Re: rarest factory sleeve  PostPosted: Feb 22, 2010 - 09:02 PM
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wurlitzer1450 wrote:
here's what i think is the rarest columbia sleeve.

Perhaps it is, I bought one mint- with the promo record "buy it now" at the end of a 7 day cycle for $5.99 with free shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110471728989

Here's a bigger scan, I'm assuming this was most likely a "promo only sleeve" to get the attention of DJ's, I could be wrong.

I'm not trying to put you down Wurlitzer1450 on this, but rather continue my point that the rarest factory sleeve might be the ones that had records nobody was interested in. If this was actually a "promo only sleeve" there is a strong argument in your favor. I got today in the mail about a foot of Epic promos from the early 1970s, all of which had been transfered to uniform yellow sleeves with an identification number on the sleeve that matched the number some fool had to write on the record label, oh well for 50 cent a pop I can't complain.



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So if my theory that loser sleeves, I call them dogs (sorry this is the globaldog speaking) are rare because nobody bothered to save them then this might be a real candidate. If you drink enough of the singer's name the record actually doesn't sound too bad Shocked



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Post subject: Re: "introduces" sleeves  PostPosted: Feb 22, 2010 - 11:52 PM
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Global_Dog_Productions wrote:
Here's a bigger scan, I'm assuming this was most likely a "promo only sleeve" to get the attention of DJ's, I could be wrong....
These "introduces" sleeves* are geared toward radio PDs/DJs and reviewers, rather than consumers. Based on the Joya Sherrill 45, whose label shares common design elements, this sleeve dates to early (Mar/Apr) 1960.


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* Two different Capitol "introduces" sleeves are pictured upthread.
 
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anything you want to say globaldog is ok even if you don't agree with me. i never have a problem with peoples comments as long as they're sincere. the rarest sleeve hasn't been put up here because you don't have it & i sold it long ago before i got interested in saving sleeves. i've only seen it one time, in 1981. it's the westport sleeve & the one i had was on the westport kids record which i sold for 50 dollars, a unheard of amount for a country record at that time [at least for me]. i remember selling the alvis wayne 45s & they were in the brown paper bag sleeves. again my theory is the rarest sleeves came with the rarest records, not with the major labels [well, maybe one of the rarest was a common label].

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wurlitzer1450 wrote:
... it's the westport sleeve & the one i had was on the westport kids record which ....
Did it look like this? The ebay listing claims the record is a "limited pressing repro ... Comes in ultra cool Westport Sleeve."



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i've never seen a blue label westport record, only red & white, the sleeve is likely a repro also. i can't remember exactly what my sleeve looked like but i've never been able to find another.

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Post subject: rarest factory sleeve  PostPosted: Feb 23, 2010 - 08:17 PM
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fire sleeve -- this is the one i sent for the trade, i'm trying globaldogs suggestions for enlarging my scans.



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Post subject: Re: rarest factory sleeve  PostPosted: Feb 23, 2010 - 09:50 PM
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wurlitzer1450 wrote:
fire sleeve -- this is the one i sent for the trade, i'm trying globaldogs suggestions for enlarging my scans.

Thank you, that looks great!

Continuing with my oddball theory that perhaps the rarest (not valuable) stock sleeve might be from a label so awful that nobody saved any because they were awful. Windsor Records is a label I don't think I would ever waste the time of trying to do a discography for as they appear to be dance instruction records and even came with an insert explaining "step by step" (literally) how to dance to the song. A partial scan of the insert follows the sleeve.



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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 24, 2010 - 09:44 AM
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GDP- Thanks for the Windsor photo. I have a copy of #7636 by The Sundowners Band on a 78 that came with a similar sleeve and thedance instruction sheet. Cost me all of fifty cents at a record shop- proof that rare does not equal expensive.

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