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Quick about me:

I'm a Springsteen-only record collector, and as you can see, this is my first post here. Normally I post in Springsteen-only forums, but the research I'm conducting is much more general and I think that I might have a chance finding some answers here. I hope I posted in the right forum.

My Springteen collection (list very outdated though): http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/collection/

Now the subject... I hope you find it interesting.

From Lost In The Flood, the Springsteen Collector's page:

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"Playback" was an interesting "experimental" project initiated by Columbia/Epic Records in the early '70s as an attempt to draw feedback from the US record buying public on the label's lesser-known acts, and thus fathoming what artists were potentially worth a more widespread promotional boost. Advertised via the inner sleeves of various popular CBS albums at the time, the "Playback" club could be joined for a $3 fee, which covered the subscription of at least ten 7-inch singles/EP's featuring newly-released (or, in some cases, even unreleased) tracks. These discs were shipped with info booklets and special questionnaires on the music contained, to be filled out and returned to the label by the subscribers.



After issuing around two dozen or so releases, Columbia eventually decided to fold the project sometime in 1974; presumably due to insufficient feedback. Apart from Bruce Springsteen, artists introduced to punters through the "Playback" series included Jeff Beck, The Blue Öyster Cult, Bob Dylan (!), Iggy & The Stooges, Loggins & Messina, Mott The Hoople, R.E.O. Speedwagon, Sweathog, The Tree Movement and Edgar Winter's White Trash (to name but a few)...


The above is not totally accurate. For example, it turned about much more PlayBack issues were released.

There has been 3 PlayBack Springsteen releases, 2 in 1973, and 1 in 1974. From Lost In The Flood:

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Avenging Annie (by Andy Pratt) / Blinded By The Light (by Bruce Springsteen) [COL AS 45]
33 1/3 rpm promotional single with blue labels; issued exclusively to members of Columbia/Epic Records’ "Playback" subscription club for test purposes. The disc came with a “Playback” logo title sleeve (two different variants of which exist) and was originally accompanied by a booklet and a questionnaire; all sent out to subscribers inside a special mailing envelope, although fully intact copies are almost impossible to find nowadays. Note that there also is a very rare white label pressing of this single that features an alternate design of the “Playback” logo and contained a different booklet (depicting Bruce and the E Street Band on its cover) as well.



Smokey Factory Blues (by Albert Hammond) / Circus Song (live, by Bruce Springsteen) / Down At The Bar (by Loudon Wainwright III) / Little Red Hen Blues (by Taj Mahal) [COL AS 52]
Second "Playback" release; same overall packaging as AS 45. Plays at 33 1/3 rpm. Bruce's live track - an early version of "Wild Billy's Circus Story" with partially different lyrics - never was issued commercially on any record and is still exclusive to this EP in audio-only form (although video footage of the complete song from the same performance was officially released as part of the "Born To Run" 30th anniversary box set in 2005), making it one of the most collectable Springsteen items ever.



Stone County (by Johnny Winter) / Transatlantic Westbound Jet (by The Hollies) / Rosalita (Come Out Tonight) (by Bruce Springsteen) [COL AS 66]
The final "Playback" release featuring Bruce. Same overall packaging as AS 45 and AS 52, and again playing at 33 1/3 rpm.



As stated above, each PlayBack disc came with its PlayBack sleeve, a questionnaire, a magazine/booklet, and special PlayBack mailing envelope. Complete/intact copies have become extremely hard to find.

Moreover, I have been offered two complete copies of the same disc (Springsteen content), but each comes with a different booklet. Which one is the correct one? Or is there a slight chance that some discs were included with two (or more) different issues of the PlayBack magazine?

According to a Springsteen collector (who's 99.9% sure)
- "Blinded By The Light" is disc cat# AS 45, and the booklet is issue #17
- "Circus Song" is disc cat# AS 52, so the booklet should be issue #24
- "Rosalita" is disc cat# AS 66, and the booklet is issue #38

To put an end to this, once and for all, we decided to gather as much info and scan as possible. This is what we got:

Playback Blinded By The Light [COL AS 45]
Disc A-side: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/collection/sin70/sin-1973-01_playback_07i-00_img03.jpg
Disc B-side: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/collection/sin70/sin-1973-01_playback_07i-00_img04.jpg
Sleeve front: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/collection/sin70/sin-1973-01_playback_07i-00_img01.jpg
Sleeve front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4421295969/sizes/m/
Sleeve back: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/collection/sin70/sin-1973-01_playback_07i-00_img02.jpg
Sleeve back: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4421295973/sizes/m/
Envelope front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4421289487/sizes/m/
Envelope back: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4421289489/sizes/m/
Booklet front: http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3420/aimg3943.jpg
Booklet page 01: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4422013730/sizes/m/
Booklet page 02: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4422013742/sizes/m/
Booklet page 03: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4422013746/sizes/m/
Booklet page 04: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4422013752/sizes/m/
Booklet page 05: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4422013756/sizes/m/
Booklet page 06: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4422041012/sizes/m/
Booklet page 07: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4422041014/sizes/m/
Booklet page 08: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4422041018/sizes/m/
Booklet page 09: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4422041022/sizes/m/
Booklet page 10: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4422041026/sizes/m/
Booklet page 11: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4422041028/sizes/m/
Booklet page 12: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4421289467/sizes/m/
Booklet page 13: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4421289469/sizes/m/
Booklet page 14: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4421289481/sizes/m/
Booklet page 15: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4421289483/sizes/m/
Booklet page 16: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10281321@N06/4422013734/sizes/m/
Questionnaire front: http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9440/aimg3946.jpg
Questionnaire back:
Questionnaire inside: http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9382/aimg3947.jpg

Playback Circus Song [COL AS 52]
Disc A-side: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/collection/sin70/sin-1973-06_playback_07i-00_img03.jpg
Disc B-side: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/collection/sin70/sin-1973-06_playback_07i-00_img04.jpg
Sleeve front: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/collection/sin70/sin-1973-06_playback_07i-00_img01.jpg
Sleeve back: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/collection/sin70/sin-1973-06_playback_07i-00_img02.jpg
Envelope front:
Envelope back:
Booklet front: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/files/collection_-_7-inch_-_Circus_Song_-_Playback_release_(6).jpg
Booklet back: http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/files/collection_-_7-inch_-_Circus_Song_-_Playback_release_(7).jpg
Booklet inside: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2751/4236448363_17b0b2cbee.jpg
Questionnaire front:
Questionnaire back:
Questionnaire inside:

Playback Rosalita [COL AS 66]
Disc A-side: http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3006/recordside1.jpg
Disc B-side: http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8602/cimg2598l.jpg
Sleeve front: http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8080/cimg2599.jpg
Sleeve back:
Envelope front:
Envelope back:
Booklet front: http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/2985/cimg2600u.jpg
Booklet back: http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3382/rosalitaback.jpg
Booklet inside:
Questionnaire front:
Questionnaire back:
Questionnaire inside:

Other Playback releases
- Cat# AS7 1026
Jeff Beck, Firesign Theatre, Mylon, Mahavishnu Orchestra with John McLaughlin, Grootna, and Lesley Duncan
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390133549950
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140192914061
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260326110477
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170326457374
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140113862778
- Cat# AS7 1033:
Blue Oyster Cult, Jake Holmes, R.E.O. Speedwagon
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140113861189
- Cat# AS 23:
Tim Harden, Hampton Grease Band, The Rascals, and Weather Report
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220327144164
- Cat# AS 31 (with booklet issue # 37)
Sweathog, The Free Movement, Bob Dylan, and Edgar Winter's White Trash
http://www.searchingforagem.com/1970s/1972.htm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220422177284
- Cat# AS 32:
Colin Blunstone Zombies, John P Hammond, Wayne Cochran, and Looking Glass
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140113855038
- Cat# AS 36:
Loggins Messina, David Bromberg, Sugar In The Ground
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140113856476
- Cat# AS 37:
The Soft Machine, Boz Scaggs
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4814709930
- Cat# AS 39:
Mott The Hoople, Matching Mole, and Signed Curtain
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140113849092
- Cat# AS 47
Iggy and the Stooges, Search and Destroy and Jesse Ed Davis
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370347355557
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160411072389
- Cat# AS 48:
Leonard Cohen, Jimmie Spheeris, The Sons of Champlin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260326074869
- Cat# AS 58:
Chicago, Mott The Hoople, The Manhattans, Thundermug
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390106838838
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140113859283
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370293337981
- Cat# AS 61:
Dave Mason, Ian Page, John Haitt, and Michael Day
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140113851462
- Cat# AS 64:
David Bromberg, Chi Coltrane, Michael Fennelly , and Florence Warner
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140113857807
 
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Post subject: RE: Columbia  PostPosted: Mar 15, 2010 - 11:24 PM
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Peter, the man behind the Lost In the Flood website, is working on a project that will consist of a complete worldwide discography of official Springsteen 7" vinyl single/EP releases (stock and promo), with every known/documented variant listed for each release; featuring in-depth descriptions, background info, rarity ratings etc. Everything here will be much more detailed than our his website's listings...

He wrote the below, from his upcoming discography project:

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Avenging Annie (by Andy Pratt) / Blinded By The Light (by Bruce Springsteen) (promotion-only release)
Format: 33 1/3 rpm single
Catalog number: COL AS 45
Year of release: 1973?
Packaging: “Playback” logo sleeve with info booklet (different cover/content to above)
Label info: White “Playback” promo paper labels; small center hole
Rarity rating: 9/10
Comments: Odd and extremely rare white label variant of the above [standard blue label release] presumably issued to radio stations, featuring an alternate “Playback” logo design and different booklet depicting a black-and-white photo of Bruce and the E Street Band on its cover, as well as an illustrated 2-page [? - number of pages unconfirmed] article entitled “A Critic’s Look At Bruce Springsteen” inside. This version of the booklet, however, does not correspond with the January 1973 release of the original blue label subscription 45, as the picture used for the cover obviously dates from the August 1973 photo sessions for Springsteen’s second album, “The Wild, The Innocent & The E Street Shuffle”, which is also mentioned in the article. Interestingly, a standard blue label copy of the single combined with the alternate booklet appeared on eBay in the spring of 2009.







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THE QUESTION:

What do you think is the actual number of "Playbacks" (by any artist), and until what year were they released?

Does anybody know of any source/collector that can shed more light on the subject? Any information corrections?
 
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Greetings,

Welcome aboard. I'm an old-time Bruce fanatic kinda bored with the latest releases they seem to be the "same-old same-old".

Thank you for what you have listed for the Play:Back/Playback series, I will update my list.

I don't have "Blinded By The Light" and my "Rosalita" came without the envelope but the other two I can scan as they arrived by mail if it is helpful. I don't know if you do "Backstreets" but I was listed as an early contributor. I asked Charles Cross to drop me around "Born In The USA", we waited two years and ended up with remixes with cow bells.

Drool at the attached picture, oh there was a 25 cent ticket charge also Very Happy

Also the Play:Backs were part of a numeral series that included non Play:Back records so you can't fill all the numbers with Play:Back numbers.

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Can you give me matrix numbers on any of these? They should be printed on the label just below the record number and start with a "Z".

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Global_Dog_Productions wrote:
Can you give me matrix numbers on any of these? They should be printed on the label just below the record number and start with a "Z".

The one with cat# AS 45:
Matrix number is ZSS 157443 and ZSS 157444

The one with cat# AS 52:
Matrix number is ZSM 158458 and ZSM 158459

The one with cat# AS 66:
Matrix number is ZSM 159194 and ZSM 159195
 
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Global_Dog_Productions wrote:
Greetings,

Welcome aboard. I'm an old-time Bruce fanatic kinda bored with the latest releases they seem to be the "same-old same-old".

Thank you for what you have listed for the Play:Back/Playback series, I will update my list.

I don't have "Blinded By The Light" and my "Rosalita" came without the envelope but the other two I can scan as they arrived by mail if it is helpful. I don't know if you do "Backstreets" but I was listed as an early contributor. I asked Charles Cross to drop me around "Born In The USA", we waited two years and ended up with remixes with cow bells.

Drool at the attached picture, oh there was a 25 cent ticket charge also Very Happy

Also the Play:Backs were part of a numeral series that included non Play:Back records so you can't fill all the numbers with Play:Back numbers.

Andy Reid

Hi Andy,

Well, we all agree that the new releases are not as exciting as the classic ones, but the live shows are (almost) as fresh as they were in Dec 1978... and man I envy you! Seen him 18 times in the last 4 years, and he still is the best LIVE performer.

I don't know why we always called the series "Playback". "Play:Back" should be the right name. Thanks for unintentionally pointing that out.

Re: "I can scan as they arrived by mail if it is helpful"
You mean you were a Play:Back subscriber and you received them at the time? In that case, I'd really appreciate the scans/photos, or at least a confirmation about what I wrote above: which magazine issue came with which disc. Any information can be helpful.

I am a Backstreets subscriber, but unfortunately the "quarterly" magazine hasn't been issued since 2008! Editor and publisher Christopher Phillips keeps promising that it's coming "soon", but in reality he has destroyed what Cross built.

Re: "Also the Play:Backs were part of a numeral series that included non Play:Back records so you can't fill all the numbers with Play:Back numbers."
Are you talking about the magazine or the records? Can you clarify a little bit more?

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Global_Dog_Productions wrote:
Greetings,

Welcome aboard. I'm an old-time Bruce fanatic kinda bored with the latest releases they seem to be the "same-old same-old".

Thank you for what you have listed for the Play:Back/Playback series, I will update my list.

I don't have "Blinded By The Light" and my "Rosalita" came without the envelope but the other two I can scan as they arrived by mail if it is helpful. I don't know if you do "Backstreets" but I was listed as an early contributor. I asked Charles Cross to drop me around "Born In The USA", we waited two years and ended up with remixes with cow bells.

Drool at the attached picture, oh there was a 25 cent ticket charge also Very Happy

Also the Play:Backs were part of a numeral series that included non Play:Back records so you can't fill all the numbers with Play:Back numbers.

Andy Reid

Hi Andy,

Quote:
Well, we all agree that the new releases are not as exciting as the classic ones, but the live shows are (almost) as fresh as they were in Dec 1978... and man I envy you! Seen him 18 times in the last 4 years, and he still is the best LIVE performer.


You should have seen him in 78. In Portland he ended the show with Gary U.S. Bonds song "Quarter To Three", after every chorus Bruce yelled "have you had enough?" The last time he asked there was no answer, that was 1:30am with only 20 feet of folks in front of the stage. Probably explains how he sold out the Coliseum two years later.

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I don't know why we always called the series "Playback". "Play:Back" should be the right name. Thanks for unintentionally pointing that out.


It was spelled both ways.

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Re: "I can scan as they arrived by mail if it is helpful"
You mean you were a Play:Back subscriber and you received them at the time? In that case, I'd really appreciate the scans/photos, or at least a confirmation about what I wrote above: which magazine issue came with which disc. Any information can be helpful.


Just a Bruce collector for the last30 plus years.

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I am a Backstreets subscriber, but unfortunately the "quarterly" magazine hasn't been issued since 2008! Editor and publisher Christopher Phillips keeps promising that it's coming "soon", but in reality he has destroyed what Cross built.


In the old days there was something to talk about, I'm not sure if that is the case these days.

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Re: "Also the Play:Backs were part of a numeral series that included non Play:Back records so you can't fill all the numbers with Play:Back numbers."
Are you talking about the magazine or the records? Can you clarify a little bit more?


Let me add your information into my database and I'll show you what I'm talking about, probably tomorrow.

All the best,

Andy

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Okay this is a work in progress and hardly complete but you will see that the two numbering systems which Play:Back used overlapped each other and were also used by Columbia and Epic. There are a few "AE" records in there that didn't duplicate numbers even though they were from the 60s until tonight when I had 31 duplicate with both AS and AE numbers. Thanks to Annaloog for sharing what he had for this list.

http://www.globaldogproductions.info/as-ae7.html

"eddy_wehbe" do you have Charles Cross' book "Backstreets"? If you do you'll see me as a contributor, I did the lettering on Bruce's family tree. If you want I can dig out my Bruce Play:Back's and scan the booklets if that is something you would find helpful.

The attached photo is a 45 you should own if you don't already. It came out in 1976 when Bruce was in a lawsuit with his old manager Mike Appell and all he could do at that point was pose for the picture. That's part of the reason Darkness didn't come out until 1978. You should be able to snag one on eBay for about $15 NM with the picture sleeve. Don't spend extra if it's promo, stock copies are rarer and almost all of those are with promo stamped on the label.

The second picture is also a must have, it came out as 7 and 12 inch and they tend to go cheap. Very funny lovingly parody of early Bruce rave ups, the B side is "Take Me Out To The Ballgame".

Another you should own is Donna Summer doing "Protection", it had a picture sleeve in Spain that I know of and a 12 inch promo in the US. Bruce wrote it for her after she turned down "Cover Me" that he originally wrote for her but she didn't like. Bruce plays guitar on it and some guy named Roy Bittan plays piano. Laughing



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Hi Andy,

Things are much clearer now that I have seen your list. Looks like a huge project, and will sure come in handy when doing my own researches. Some matrix numbers you might want to add:
AS-31: JZSM 156081 / JZSM 156082
AS-32: ZSM 156370 / ZSM 156371
AS-48: ZSM 158292 / ZSM 158293
AS-58: ZSM 158504 / ZSM 158505
AS7 1026: ZSM 156009 / ZSM 156010

I haven't got the Backstreets book, will sure get my hands on a copy soon. I think I've seen the family tree somewhere online. Must be taken from the book.

I have both U.S. and Dutch issues of the Ronnie Spector 7-inch. Also see:
- http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/lyrics/s/saygoodbyetohollywood.php
- http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/lyrics/b/babypleasedontgo.php

I have the 7-inch version of the Bruce Springstone parody single. You might be interested in these reads:
- http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/lyrics/b/bedrockrap.php
- http://www.springsteenlyrics.com/lyrics/t/takemeouttotheballgame_brucespringstone.php

Don't have any of Donna Summer's releases, but I have her version of PROTECTION on a Springsteen tribute album.

As for the Play:Back that you have, you don't have to send scans. Just a confirmation (or correction) on:
- "Blinded By The Light" is disc cat# AS 45, and the booklet is issue #17
- "Circus Song" is disc cat# AS 52, so the booklet should be issue #24
- "Rosalita" is disc cat# AS 66, and the booklet is issue #38

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