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why would someone spend a lot on a CD player?


It's all about D/A conversion. See previous post Smile .

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Post subject: Steam cleaning records -- first-hand observations  PostPosted: Jul 10, 2012 - 08:13 AM
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Just look at all these features Mr. Berry is wantin' on his ride....I've only included the lyrics for the stuff he wants and one of the chorus where he talks about the broken down, raggedy Ford (that he says with a silent "r", like Fode). One of my all-time faves since my early childhood! WOOHOO!

"Well Mister I want a yellow convertible
Four - door de Ville
With a Continental spare
And wire chrome wheels
I want power steering
And power brakes
I want a powerful motor
With a jet off - take
I want air condition
I want automatic heat
And I want a full Murphy bed
In my back seat
I want short - wave radio
I want TV and a phone
You know I gotta talk to my baby
When I'm ridin' alone"

Yes I'm gonna get that car
And I'm gonna head on down the road
Yeah, then I won't have to worry
About that broken - down, raggedy Ford

"I want four carburetors
And two straight exhausts
I'm burnin' aviation fuel
No matter what the cost
I want railroad air horns
And a military spot
And I want a five - year guarantee
On everything I got
I want ten - dollar deductible
I want twenty dollar notes
I want thirty thousand liability"
That's all she wrote

oh man, give me 10 four barrels, double barrel overdrive and a supercharger on the side.
this is my fav chuck berry record, it's his first on chess, the flip of "down bound train" and hard to find in near new condition. us guys played this on the jukebox in the 50s and again i'll tell you the girls HATED songs like this, they preferred the dreamy ballads like the top 40 stuff of the mid 50s. great record, i'm gonna get mine out and just look at it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xneY9trWhNs

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Post subject: RE: Steam cleaning records -- first-hand observations  PostPosted: Jul 10, 2012 - 08:17 AM
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The benefit of steam cleaning is that all record cleaning solution will be taken out of the grooves. Here's how you do it. First things first. Turn on your steam cleaner, and allow it a minute or two to warm up. Apply record cleaning solution to your first side. Do a test spray to make sure you have no runoff. Then steam clean and vaccuum. Apply distilled water to same side. Then steam clean and vaccuum. Repeat on other side. When steam cleaning, lightly press the nozzle otherwise you'll spray too much and ruin the label. When spraying, you'll want to do it from right to left or left to right whichever hand you use till you get to the center then move up to the dead wax if you have to. It only takes about 5 seconds to cover the disk and get the steam swirl effect going.
 
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Never thought of the steam cleaning process. Makes me a little nervous to try it though. If the LP is in that bad of shape, I usually pass. I find the Iso/Distilled water method to be very effective and 90% of the time actually brings it up a grade.
 
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The benefit of steam cleaning is that all record cleaning solution will be taken out of the grooves.


The same could be said of any vacuum cleaning system.

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The benefit of steam cleaning is that all record cleaning solution will be taken out of the grooves.


The same could be said of any vacuum cleaning system.


I disagree. I'm not supporting steam cleaning, but I am not in favor of any of the vacuum systems I've seen/owned. (Both a Nitty Gritty and a VPI) In a vacuum cleaning system, the disc is kept flat, fluid is applied and spread and then a vacuum arm or wand comes over to remove the dirty/used fluid. Just in a basic design standpoint, this does not work well. You would never clean your dishes that way and call it good. All the dirty fluid does not magically disappear when the vacuum system is applied. Most of it, sure, but gravity and adhesion causes a film to be left across the entire surface of the record. Here's a good experiment, take a white vinyl record, add a drop of food coloring to a sample of record cleaning fluid and use that to clean the record. Will it be perfectly white again without rinsing, no. Plus, you now have a vacuum wand that is contaminated with the dirty fluid to be applied to the next record. That said, I now use a SpinClean and like it much better, with the added (big) advantage of being silent.

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I disagree ...... I am not in favor of any of the vacuum systems I've seen/owned. (Both a Nitty Gritty and a VPI)


Perhaps that's because you have not owned the best.

I have a Monks and I can assure you it removes *every* trace of dirty fluid. Loricraft also make a machine which uses the same priniple as the Monks.

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gravity and adhesion causes a film to be left across the entire surface of the record


These are the very things the vacuum is designed to overcome. The problem with machines like VPI is the vacuum is not localised enough. The engineering principle is fine, is the appliccation of the principle that is not right in the case of some manufacturers.

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I was visiting BadassDave, a.k.a. CactusCowboy, and he has a home made machine that works great. Now I've never operated the VPI or the NittyGritty (I've seen one of these in action), and can't imagine that they don't do something good cleaning records. But with Dave's unit, he applies the cleaning solution and then spins the platter himself with one hand while holding in place a soft brush across the record that cleans the surface. Then he activates the vacuum and removes that solution. But there's one more step in Dave's process: a final distilled water rinse and vacuum. Once off the cleaning machine he puts the platter onto a drying rod by slipping the rod through the spindle hole and then leaves it hangin' for a while.

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Post subject: NOT Steam Cleaning Records  PostPosted: Jul 27, 2012 - 07:41 AM
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And a few more.....WOOHOO!



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