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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 31, 2013 - 02:28 PM
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Not saying it is for a fact just offering a possible explanation, that is why I put a question mark?

Also, the Motown map promo's are the best looking by far
 
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newer99 wrote:
Not saying it is for a fact just offering a possible explanation, that is why I put a question mark?

I'm not sure, either, about the origin of the stamp. Could be "real", I was just enturing a guess.

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Also, the Motown map promo's are the best looking by far

No question about that, they're sharp.
 
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hrtshpdbox wrote:
I doubt it; anyone could have put that stamp there. There's no reason to believe it was actually remastered, or has increased clarity (except to the extent that a promo is perhaps pressed a little more carefully). It looks just like Fastphilly's copy (which I'd personally rather have than one with a dubious label stamp).
The "Remastered Version" text on the popsike example appears to have been printed on the label with a typewriter rather than stamped (as with a rubber stamp). If that is the case, the label would have had to go through the typewriter before it was applied to the disk. Still, as you said, it's no reason to believe that particular copy was actually remastered.

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annaloog wrote:
]The "Remastered Version" text on the popsike example appears to have been printed on the label with a typewriter rather than stamped (as with a rubber stamp).


That's a good point, it does look like type. And, now that I look at it again I'm noticing that "New! New! New!" is also printed about the "remastered" line. The whole thing seems an odd, and probably inaccurate, message for Motown to be putting on just some of the promo's for this Four Tops record - but maybe they did, and maybe that's why it fetches a premium after all (as Newer suggested).
 
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The deadwax etching/stamping should give a clue as to whether the Four Tops 45 was re-mastered.
 
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stephenjaye wrote:
The deadwax etching/stamping should give a clue as to whether the Four Tops 45 was re-mastered.


Runout info for A side: HLG -136308 (etched) / S4KM-6876-1(machine stamped)

The blank side has a plain white label that says in bold text:

DO NOT PLAY THIS SIDE (12 O'Clock position)
THIS IS A SILENT GROOVE TO IMPROVE THE MOLDING OF YOUR PRESSING (6 O'clock position)

SILENT GROOVE (machine stamped on dead wax)
 
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Fastphilly wrote:
Runout info for A side: HLG -136308 (etched) / S4KM-6876-1(machine stamped) ....
Presumably, RCA mfd. the master disk*, plates and pressing from Motown's tape master. I don't see anything here beyond the ordinary.

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* Had the prefix been S5KM, the master disk would have been cut elsewhere than RCA's studios.
 
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